Cancelled Townhall Q&A (Sept 20th)
Dear Members,
We have compiled the questions and provided answers to them below. Should you have any further questions please reach out to your Base Vice President.
Q1: When are we changing to the "real" seniority bidding system?
A: The policy grievances that were filed in 2022, are still in queue for arbitration and waiting to be heard by an arbitrator. While we wait, we have engaged the company and maintain our position that the system we have is not true seniority and what our membership is in need of. Any language we have surrounding a new PBS Seniority based scheduling system must be clear, concise, and direct. We will not accept language that is vague or gives the company the ability to not fulfill its promise of a true seniority system.
Q2: When is next per-diem rate adjustment?
A: The Per Diem rate can be found in your respective Collective Agreement.
Q3: With the integration coming up, how will the MSL look? Are they going to be slotted at the bottom of the MSL?
A: Per the Interim Swoop Integration MOA, those that integrate are added to the bottom of the MSL. One of the many projects the Executive Board has been tasked with is addressing the integration of Swoop and the upcoming merger of Sunwing flight attendants and the impacts on seniority and our membership.
Q4: It’s been often observed since ratification where we do not have “adequate or specific language” in our Agreement, and the company has been able to take license to circumvent our intentions. We have CUPE National to guide us, and they are compensated through our dues. How are we going to ensure our next agreement leaves us better protected from non-specific wording that can be used against us?
A: While the Executives have been tracking areas of improvement identified, it will ultimately be up to our membership to complete the bargaining survey to give the bargaining committee the direction to take. If you haven’t already, we recommend keeping track of what you like and don’t like so it is easier to respond to the survey. Every submission matters. The Executive has heard loud and clear from the membership that vague language will not be acceptable for CA #2.
Q5: Will the Union be looking at the clause in our contract regarding modified (ad hoc) duties only being paid at 50%. For people on long term mod duties, this is quite a financial hardship but seems to be a benefit to the employer.
A: Unpaid Work Won’t Fly. Our compensation along with the other Canadian carriers agree that cabin personnel deserve to be compensated fairly and for their time at work. Any article in our Collective Agreement can be addressed, however with a monetary article such as 41-7, that will have to wait for collective bargaining which will begin for CA #2 in 2025.
Q6: Can the Union please make a video tutorial on the basics of Rainmaker. I also brought this question up at a previous Townhall. I don’t think many of us are looking for a super in-depth explanation of every element, but please can someone help me understand how to read this Rainmaker App so I know what my mid-month pay is going to be. Everyone I ask online seems to have little understanding of the App apart from checking to see if 14+ hr duty pay is loaded or how to check our Sick Day balance. Thank you!
A: The company has guides published on WestNet on how to use Rainmaker. If videos of the program are desired, this ask should be directed to the company who has implemented the use of Rainmaker and would be the subject matter experts. We suggest emailing your DPM with this request.
Q7: My Annual (and now separate First Aid) training dates are consistently moved 1 month ahead without my consent. When I try to move the date back to the original month I am told that I can only request to change it within the assigned month. How is it fair that WJ can change the month but CCM’s cannot. For me, it’s about childcare.
A: We have bargained language around this circumstance in our Collective Agreement that can be found in article 39-3.01.
39-3.01 Notice will normally be provided to Cabin Personnel sixty (60) Calendar Days in advance of any month’s training events. A Cabin Personnel can request to change their annual/recurrent training dates by submitting the request up to the date of bids closing for the month in which training is scheduled. Approval of such requests will be based on operational requirements.
Requests will be granted based on operational requirements. If you are having childcare issues with annual dates, please reach out to your DPM and inform them of the situation. They have the ability to help accommodate on case by case situations.
Q8: I want to know if CUPE will be creating a direct link form for ccms to fill out to send direct feedback about current articles in our agreement they feel need change. There is so much grey area and with negotiations coming up for our next contract we need to be able to compile/organize what needs to change and where people need to see change the most. This would be a easy Microsoft form for CUPE to create that could go directly to our representatives.
A: Members are welcome to email members of the Executive Board their suggested articles and changes as they track suggestions when received by members. However, it is important to note that the bargaining survey will be what gives the bargaining committee direction on what the local priorities are. Bargaining will begin in 2025.
Q9: Any word on Swoop being intergraded in terms of how that will look like seniority wise. Seems only right that they go to the bottom because when the “flowed” from swoop to WJ they lost their seniority.
A: Discussions on how seniority will look like after the integration of Swoop into WestJet, and Sunwing into WestJet are ongoing. For the mean time, as per the MOA, members will be added to the bottom of the MSL.
Q10: During the next negotiations can the MSL be revised and corrected as what we voted for in the first place in 2020?
A: Construction of the MSL has been determined and a decision by the CIRB with complaints has been made. Currently the Executives are working to address the implications of integrating Swoop and Sunwing into WestJet and the impacts on the overall MSL. Please provide bargaining ideas on the bargaining survey that will be released in 2025.
Q11: Last July our schedule was delayed because of the company issues and we never got compensated? And this last week again we have a delay in vacation bids because of the company… will we ever be compensated for all those mistakes that do affect our work life?
A: Policy grievances are a lengthy process as they involve mediation and arbitration. Currently the average timeline is 2 years. Seeking an arbitrator with expertise in the aviation industry is challenging. Resolve for these situations do not always include financial compensation or penalty as resolve in grievances look at making members whole and must be reasonable. Vacation bidding was resolved by having the bids rerun to ensure they were awarded correctly. One thing as a local that we are committed to doing, is getting heard in front of an arbitrator at a much faster rate as currently the backlog from the pandemic has now shifted behind us and dates become more available. With that said, we are filing a grievance due to the breach of the Collective Agreement.
Your Local 4070 Executives:
President, Alia Hussain
Vice President, Tyson Conrod
Recording Secretary, Calvin Gautschi
Secretary-Treasurer, Alex Grigoriev
Swoop Base VP, Sherrie Moore
WestJet Encore YYC/YYZ Base VP, Adrian Dayrit
WestJet YEG/YVR Base VP, Chris Brewer
WestJet YYC Base VP, Brandy Whitby
WestJet YYZ Base VP, Bryan Hansraj